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man2010

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Templates for children’s books and comics
Posted: Nov 9, 2012 6:35 AM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
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LANDSCAPE-ORIENTED EBOOKS

Childrens_simplest.zip (also suitable for comics; no region magnification; each page is a plain JPEG file; all text must be embedded in the images)

Childrens_simplest_HD.zip (also suitable for comics; designed for pictures 1024 × 640 pixels, which will fill the screen of Kindle Fire HD and HDX devices completely {but small margins on two sides of the Kindle Fire screen}; no region magnification; each page is a plain JPEG file; all text must be embedded in the images)

Childrens_simplest_2.zip (popular template; region magnification for five areas within each page: top left, top right, center, bottom left, and bottom right {cannot be changed}; each page is a plain JPEG file; all text must be embedded in the images; this ebook can have pages with no region magnification)

Childrens_Extra.zip (designed for high-resolution images 1280 × 800 pixels {not recommended}; region magnification for five areas within each page: top left, top right, center, bottom left, and bottom right {cannot be changed}; each page is a plain JPEG file; all text must be embedded in the images)

Childrens_HD.zip (similar to Childrens_simplest_2; designed for pictures 1024 × 640 pixels, which will fill the screen of Kindle Fire HD and HDX devices completely {but small margins on two sides of the Kindle Fire screen}; region magnification for five areas within each page: top left, top right, center, bottom left, and bottom right {cannot be changed}; each page is a plain JPEG file; all text must be embedded in the images)

Childrens.zip (text must be embedded in pictures; region magnification of one area of a page: the lower left-hand corner by default, which you can change to several other locations within a page; this ebook can have pages with no region magnification)

Childrens_HTML-CSS.zip (for advanced users; region magnification of text)

Comics 4x landscape.zip (region magnification for each panel; four identical rectangular panels per page; this ebook can have pages with six identical panels {with magnification} and pages with no magnification {any arrangement of panels})

Comics 6x landscape.zip (region magnification for each panel; six identical rectangular panels per page; this ebook can have pages with four identical panels {with magnification} and pages with no magnification {any arrangement of panels})

PORTRAIT-ORIENTED EBOOKS

Comics_simplest.zip (also suitable for children’s books; no region magnification; each page is a plain JPEG file with any arrangement of panels; all text must be embedded in the images)

Comics_simplest_HD.zip (also suitable for children’s books; designed for pictures 640 × 1024 pixels, which will fill the screen of Kindle Fire HD and HDX devices completely {but small margins on two sides of the Kindle Fire screen}; no region magnification; each page is a plain JPEG file with any arrangement of panels; all text must be embedded in the images)

Childrens_simplest_3.zip (region magnification for five areas within each page: top left, top right, center, bottom left, and bottom right {cannot be changed}; each page is a plain JPEG file; all text must be embedded in the images; this ebook can have pages with no region magnification)

Comics 4x.zip (region magnification for each panel; four identical rectangular panels per page; this ebook can have pages with six identical panels {with magnification} and pages with no magnification {any arrangement of panels})

Comics_4x_Extra.zip (designed for high-resolution images 800 × 1280 pixels {not recommended}; region magnification for each panel; four identical rectangular panels per page; this ebook can have pages with six identical panels {with magnification})

Comics_4x_HD.zip (designed for pictures 640 × 1024 pixels, which will fill the screen of Kindle Fire HD and HDX devices completely {but small margins on two sides of the Kindle Fire screen}; region magnification for each panel; four identical rectangular panels per page; this ebook can have pages with six identical panels {with magnification})

Comics 6x.zip (region magnification for each panel; six identical rectangular panels per page; this ebook can have pages with four identical panels {with magnification} and pages with no magnification {any arrangement of panels})

Comics_6x_Extra.zip (designed for high-resolution images 800 × 1280 pixels {not recommended}; region magnification for each panel; six identical rectangular panels per page; this ebook can have pages with four identical panels {with magnification})

Comics_6x_HD.zip (designed for pictures 640 × 1024 pixels, which will fill the screen of Kindle Fire HD and HDX devices completely {but small margins on two sides of the Kindle Fire screen}; region magnification for each panel; six identical rectangular panels per page; this ebook can have pages with four identical panels {with magnification})
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Re: Templates for children’s books and comics
Posted: Nov 10, 2012 5:08 AM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
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"How to use these templates to build your own fixed-layout Kindle book"

This is great and will undoubtedly be very useful for a lot of people, but you might want to think about starting another thread for it so it will be easier for them to find.
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Re: Templates for children’s books and comics
Posted: Nov 10, 2012 7:06 AM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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Thanks, namesake, for this suggestion. I will do that when I package detailed instructions into an ebook available for downloading.
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:41 PM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
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i hope this doesn't sound like a really ignorant question, but i am very new at this. do i need to know all of this formatting stuff if i am going to use Download Kindle Plugin for Adobe InDesign® v0.972 (Beta) provided by amazon, or do i just need my In Design file?
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:53 PM   in response to: elizabeth march... in response to: elizabeth march...
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I don't like InDesign and think it's terrible for eBooks, but you might get by with it. The current mobi plug-in is badly broken though. You'll have to wait for Amazon to release a new plug-in build before using the program to make a mobi file. They claim it won't be long.

It sounds like you already have InDesign. If you don't and want to make mobi and epub files without learning HTML/CSS, I would suggest downloading the trial version of Jutoh instead--a much better program at a small fraction of the cost compared to ID.
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 18, 2012 9:17 PM   in response to: elizabeth march... in response to: elizabeth march...
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You can try the InDesign plug-in (the easiest thing to do), but it produces bad results. The tutorial in this thread suggests converting the indesign file to RTF then to a Word document and then formatting the book in Word. This approach will give you much more control over formatting and much better results. If you don't have Microsoft Word, you can download a free 60-day trial of MS Office.

You can also try Punchy's approach: Jutoh is one of the better (or less problematic) programs for Kindle formatting.
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 19, 2012 8:21 AM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
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thank you for that. i use openoffice for word processing, although my original book file is a word file i no longer have the full program on this computer. i do have a program called mobipocket that i downloaded some time ago but i never used it - are any of you familiar with that program or its results? is there a step by step guide for this? i was kind of hoping that i could just import my word file into one of these programs and let it do the rest (lol, wishful thinking, i know). i spent an incredible amount of time formatting my books in InDesign and was hoping this was going to be much easier. the bottom line is that i HATE this part, i want to just get back to the writing but i would like to get the kindle versions out before the holidays. but, frankly, this stuff uses the weak side of my brain.
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:22 AM   in response to: elizabeth march... in response to: elizabeth march...
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"i do have a program called mobipocket that i downloaded some time ago but i never used it - are any of you familiar with that program or its results? is there a step by step guide for this?"

Man2010 here has used MobiPocket in the past and can probably give you some pointers. Also, I know CJ has used it a lot. She probably has some tutorials on it at her website if you snoop around:

http://www.cjs-easy-as-pie.com/

If you like using OpenOffice, then once again I would recommend Jutoh because It works best with OpenOffice ODT files. It's not free, but it's cheap ($39). I may try and put up a tutorial on using the program on Thanksgiving day if I get time.

I think there are a few caveats with using MobiPocket these days, but I don't remember what they are. (Something to do with guide items I think.) I believe you can still use it though for the most part, and it's free.
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:25 AM   in response to: elizabeth march... in response to: elizabeth march...
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:57 AM   in response to: elizabeth march... in response to: elizabeth march...
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i do have a program called mobipocket that i downloaded some time ago but i never used it - are any of you familiar with that program or its results?

If you have no desire to get into HTML coding, you will get the same or better results with Microsoft Word alone, without MobiPocket Creator. MPC used to be helpful before Amazon introduced the book cover feature on the KDP website. MPC has some minor problems, for example, it cannot process some special symbols and it reduces quality of all pictures below 60KB.
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:01 PM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
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thank u all, clearly this is not going to be the easy 2 step process i had hoped for. what is the worst case scenario, if i just submit my word file as is (don't even know if that is an option) but how terrible will it be? i am trying to look at it with the special characters in open office and all the arrows and paragraph symbols are giving me a headache. i might be alright if there were a step by step guide like 'masterson's 'book design' but i am flying blind here. i need something that will take me through all the steps, even the most basic, like how to remove the formatting on my current word file and start fresh.

i really didn't want to pay someone to do this, but honestly, THIS IS NOT MY FORTE and it interferes with my writing process. does anyone know of a good, affordable service?
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:43 PM   in response to: elizabeth march... in response to: elizabeth march...
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Elizabeth,
It's difficult to help you without more details. Don't hesitate to ask: there are lots of people here willing to share their experience.
There are also many step-by-step guides. But it's not the 2-step process many authors would like.
As you use OpenOffice, you can try soft.alkinea.net It's a free software that simplifies the conversion from OpenOffice to Kindle.
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 19, 2012 6:39 PM   in response to: alkinea in response to: alkinea
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thank you so much for that link. i will absolutely be using that in the future. sorry for the confusion though, my current two titles are not in openoffice (although that is what i am using to read them). i have 2 files for my current publications, one is word and the other is InDesign. InDesign is what i sent to lightningsource for my hardcover publication. i imported the text from my working file (the word file) to create the InDesign file. i know, that is probably as clear as mud. would it be best for me to open the word doc. in openoffice and then save it as an ODF text doc and then go from there into the alkinea program or would there be some other steps i would have to take?
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 19, 2012 6:55 PM   in response to: elizabeth march... in response to: elizabeth march...
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I don't recommend OpenOffice for publishing on KDP because Amazon does little or no testing of OpenOffice-generated files. Amazon's epublishing tools are fine-tuned to Microsoft Word-generated files. If you use OpenOffice you are setting yourself up for surprises. I tried designing a tutorial for OpenOffice not so long ago and I gave up because there were many annoying little problems, such as inconsistent behavior of paragraph styles and a mess with the formatting of pictures. OpenOffice might work for a very generic and simple type of manuscript without any bells and whistles. But the devil is in the details and OpenOffice, LibreOffice, WordPerfect and all other untested word-processors have these details wrong.

Regarding a detailed tutorial for Microsoft Word and InDesign, see the following link (chapter "if you don't want to learn HTML"): http://kdp.amazon.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=335297#335297

If you wish to hire a formatting service, I recommend these two decent companies:
http://ebookpioneers.com/
http://www.booknook.biz/
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Re: Formatting an ebook properly in Word or in WordPerfect, OpenOffice or HTML
Posted: Nov 19, 2012 8:28 PM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
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All these word processors, Word, OpenOffice and Pages, are not designed for Kindle.
They are very powerful and allow to do lots of things that kindles do not support.
Amazon chose to support Word, and it works well if you follow specific rules. You'll find dozens of step-by-step instructions everywhere.
But not everybody has Word.
LibreOffice is very similar to Word but is free. It also now has a free one-button converter to kindle: alkinea.
You still need to follow some rules, and not everything is converted, which is the same as with Word.
Another free solution is to build your book directly in html and css. But it's not easy. You'll need to learn a lot, like how to create a TOC, use correct CSS that work on old and new kindles, etc.
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